Trusting God

Hey besties 🤍 today we are on the topic of trusting in God and His plan. While we all know this is something that is crucial in our faith, the truth is it’s hard. Especially when Gods promises don’t match our circumstances. Whether you’re in a waiting period or questioning the Lord, we pray that this conversation brings you comfort in trusting Him and also understanding that He knows it’s difficult. He’s not angry when you question his promises or even if you laugh at them.  We love you guys and hope you enjoy this episode!

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hey besties. Hey besties. Hello. Welcome back to Jesus and Besties. I'm Jasmine.

SPEAKER_00 0:04

I'm Tatiana.

SPEAKER_02 0:06

Okay, we are back, back, back. We're lost. So back, baby.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

We're that will never be fun. I needed okay. I have a story. A couple weeks ago, every time Jasmine says we're back, I crack up laughing only because a couple weeks ago we were telling one of our really good friends how we haven't been in the gym because we were a little sick, and Jasmine goes, Yeah, I've been sick, but I'm back. She likes sniffled like and you could hear all this congestion. Like, I'm back. So every time she starts we gotta remain disciplined. Oh my gosh, it brings oh my gosh, I cracked. He believed it, he believed it. No, you are you are back. You you went you went next morning, five in the morning, but it was so funny. But anyways, we're back, we're back.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

We are so back, baby. Well, actually, fun fact, we don't go to the gym anymore. Guys, we're going through a breakup.

SPEAKER_00 1:04

No, Jasmine, this is my best. Let me pragma my best friend. She is so locked in, it's insane. I'm like locked in, but like I like the keys in the car. Where no, she's like, I want a drink program. She's like, You want to go to the gym at five? And I was like, and we used to wake up at five, and she's like, No, we're waking up at 4:30, and I was like, I don't know, girl. So yeah, we don't go to the gym anymore. But I told her maybe one of these days I'll like hit her up and be like, Can I go?

SPEAKER_02 1:33

So I I was like hoping Tatiana would be down, but I kind of felt like she wouldn't be down. Like sorry. Just like I get it, it is early waking up at 4 30, but I feel like the Lord has really been helping me. Um, you've been doing good. Yeah, like I really do feel like the Lord has been helping me because I like for some reason it feels like so much harder to get up at like 5 than 4:30. It has been so much.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

So it's easier to get up at 4 30.

SPEAKER_02 2:05

Yeah, like I feel like I don't know, it might be the Lord working, but I'll be up and like I like get ready and like don't even rush out the door because I'm not waking up 10 minutes before I gotta go. Um, and like it feels good. I get to the gym, I work out, it's been feeling amazing, and then I go. And the reason why I decided to be like I I felt like I needed to be more disciplined, like, although I've been going to the gym at like 5:30, we would get there at 6. Um, I didn't have time to read the word, and um I would read it like during my lunch or you know, at a break, but it's like, are you soaking in that moment? So um what I felt like I needed to do was like, okay, well, I can be a little bit more disciplined and throughout the week I can go to the gym, get there at five, and work out, go get my starbies that has had a chokehold on me actually for a couple months already. Um, I don't know why, but I was like, oh, I can't do Bible study. Like for me, guys, like you can say, like, go home and like do a Bible study. I cannot. I won't focus, I'll end up cleaning my room, like I'll do whatever else other than reading my Bible. And it's just like hard for me to just sit still at home.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

I know a lot of people like that though. They have to go somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

Yes, so I have to go. So I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna go get my coffee. I don't even know why, but like Starby's is open early. Like, why did I not think of that?

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Oh, yeah, they're open.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

You know what I mean? So now I'm super excited that I get to like go to the gym early, and I can go to Starby's and then literally have an hour and a half before I gotta go. Oh, that's an hour and a half of the Lord. So I'm like, wow, I can do this. And so it's been like working out amazingly. I miss my gym buddy. Um, but I will be praying for her.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

She's taught me a lot. I worked out during lunch um at my job, and I just do what Jasmine did that morning. Or like the workouts that she taught me.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

Yeah. So like I did arms yesterday, and I was like, we have to I definitely feel like the Lord has been disciplining me, disciplining me in this season.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Yeah, me too. We should have an episode on that discipline. Mm-hmm. Maybe the next one.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

That's good.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

Let's do that. Because we're learn because we're learning, so what a good topic. But today we're talking about trusting the Lord. Um I feel like we tap we tap on this subject, but we've never, I don't think we've done an episode where it was just solely just trusting in the Lord. Mm-hmm. So Yeah, it could be really hard.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

I feel like sometimes when we're going on our walk with the Lord, um we have our good times, of course, like the easy moments, but we also have a hard time. Um, and those hard times can really like make it hard for us to just be like, you know, I trust you, Lord. Like sometimes let's be honest, it's not like that.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

So um to be able to talk about it openly and vulnerably is is really good, and what we want to do because we don't want to just say, oh, like the Christian life is just perfect. Like being a believer, walking with the Lord is amazing, which even though it is, it is not the easiest. You know what I mean? Um and a lot of people don't really bless you, bless you.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

Um a lot of people a lot of people don't really say it. Like we see we see snippets of it um online of how like the Lord works for people and and comes through for people, and that's amazing to see. But you know, a lot of the times we don't share the struggles of it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

Yeah, I think there's so much there's like so much context behind those videos. They're they're cool to see, but yeah. Um and yeah, for us as we were preparing, we were like, what better story about trusting God than good old Abraham and Sarah?

SPEAKER_01 6:07

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Yeah, how they could not have a kid. You want to know something really crazy? Why? So when this isn't I mean, it's not a sad story, but like you're me. Like, you know what you want to know something. It's like start loving. So, like, four years ago, my grandma went on to be with the Lord. She was in 94. Wow, she lived a very beautiful long life. She had a bunch of kids and a bunch of grandkids. But it was so it's not funny. She was on hospice. Thankfully, she was able to stay in her own home, and like my aunt moved down and lived with her and stuff. But there was one day in particular, it was like one of the last days of her life, and I'm looking at her and I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is Sarah. Oh I know, I don't know how what was she, like 99 or 90? But she was in her 90s, and I'm like, just and it was like, think of like having a baby, like right like this. And I was like, Oh my gosh, God is real. Like, it was so but seeing it in front, like, and I felt so bad. I was like, Oh my grandma's like, she's so tired. She like, you know, she just slept mostly. But I'm looking at her, I'm like, dude, this is when Sarah had a baby, yeah, like when they're fragile, that's why she laughed.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

It was so well, yeah, we're gonna talk about that.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

Yeah, I love that part. It's funny, but it was so like I think of that all of the time when I think of this story, like my cute little grandma. Yeah, but then I'm like, this is Sarah, and I'm like, wow, just seeing the context, so it was really cool. But we're gonna read um Genesis 18, verse 10 through 18. Do you want me to read the whole thing or um you wanna read the half of it?

SPEAKER_02 7:53

The 10 through 14, and then we can Okay, so um, then one of them said, I will surely return to you about this time next year, and Sarah, your wife, will have a son. Now, Sarah was listening at the entrance to the tent, which was behind him. Abraham and Sarah were already very old, and Sarah was past the age of childbearing. So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, After I am worn out and my Lord is old, will I now have this pleasure? Then the Lord said to Abraham, Why did Sarah laugh and say, Will I really have a child now that I'm old? Is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return to you at the appointed time next year and said and Sarah will have a son.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

Sarah was afraid, so she denied it, saying, I didn't laugh, but the Lord said, No, you did. Then the men got up from their meal and looked out towards Sodom. As they left, Abraham went on to send them on their way. Should I hide my plan from Abraham? The Lord asked. For Abraham will certainly become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth will be blessed through him. Hmm. So good.

SPEAKER_02 9:09

I love it because like she laughed. And I think that like shows the humor of the Lord. Like, you know, I don't know. I just feel like the way that I imagine him saying it, like, I think it's so funny. It's like, but he said, Yes, you did laugh.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

No, he's like, I didn't laugh. He's like, no, you did laugh.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

So I think it's funny. It makes me laugh um every time I read it.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

I love it. No, yeah, the um the last episode we talked about being honest with God. So I I kind of touched on it the last episode, but I love how like I love his response, even though she laughed. He didn't say, like, okay, well, no kid. No. Yeah. But he was just like, I heard you like he acknowledged, like, I heard you laugh, but I'm still gonna be blessed. And he even adds, like, you will be Abraham, you'll become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth will be blessed through him. So God has a good, but no, God is funny.

SPEAKER_02 10:11

Like, no, you did laugh, and she Yeah, but he's so good. Cause you know, like you just have to trust in him and and and believe what he says that he's gonna fulfill his promises. Like he is a God that will fulfill um his promises. Right. And I think that it's just like a good example of like you know how he's worked, all this although this has happened in so long ago, it doesn't mean that it limits our God, or it doesn't mean that he's not going to do the same thing. Like I saw something like saying like how um our God is like the same God. Oh, I can't remember what it says. Like, it's like the God that you're praying to, like, your God is still the same God that also like led Abraham and you know what I mean? So it's like that is actually crazy. All these stories that you hear, like that's the same God, yeah. And so, like, it's just so inspiring to see, like, you know, so much of what he's done, all the healing, all the the um stories that we hear, and it's like that can also happen to us. Like, our God is a good God. We limit him, but he's so good.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

I feel like yeah, and I feel like he means he like intentionally does things like this for other people to see because it's not just gonna bless that person, but it's gonna bless like people around them. Like, I think of um the story with the woman with the issue of blood, and I you know, he did of all places like because she was trying to hide, like she was just I just want to touch the garment and just get out. But he stopped the crowd, he's like, Who touched me? And you know, it was her. And I after reading that, there's a couple times in the gospel where it says, and people were grabbing his fringe. So he wanted everybody to say, like, to see, like, I'm accessible. Like, that is how powerful, like, my father in heaven is you just have to touch my fringe. And she was bleeding for 12 years, like how you know, so especially like with illness, like, and then like there's the laws and stuff at the time that fall into that, like, because she could have gotten stoned, yeah, because she touched a person, but then Jesus was a rabbi, yeah. Um, but he was saying he's like, No, like I'm I'm accessible. So that's so good. Okay, have you ever had a moment or season where you had a hard time trusting God?

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Yes, I feel like I've gone through that. Like, I it's like not even I feel like it's not ever really a season, you know what I mean? Yeah, there are times when times are just so good that you're just like, oh well, this is amazing, life's good. And there are times where you just kind of get like a little hopeless and a little bit like, well Lord, like when is it my time? Like you know what I mean, and I feel like um it can be really hard, it can really be a hard time to to trust the Lord when we're going through hard things that we don't want to go through, or waiting seasons, or seasons that are just not the best. Um, but you know, I feel like for me I've kind of always like, you know, it's it's always been I try not to like have n not have that trust. You know what I mean? Like I do have that trust, but like I try not to think about it too much because then like I feel like I give like the enemy a like a foothold of like what my weakness is. I don't know, but um it it could be really really hard. Um, but it goes into like how we were talking about earlier, like being honest with the Lord. Um I just like take it to the Lord, but yeah, I have had a season and right now I think it's like my waiting season. I talk about it a lot, guys, because that is like in real time. In real time, yeah. I love that. It's what I'm going through, and I think it's it's good to be honest and just to kind of let it out. Um, but yeah, sometimes I do like find myself feeling a little hopeless. Like, Lord, like I don't even want to tell you what I want in a man or how I want him to look like, or you know, because I feel hopeless right now. Like, what if that doesn't even happen, you know? And I think that's like my trust, you know? It's like me having a hard time trusting the Lord and saying, like, well, Lord, like I'm having a hard time trusting you right now, you know? Um, but that like comes and goes. Like I overall, like I do know and believe that the Lord will come through as he always does. Um, I just remain faithful and just like look at him, you know. When I'm feeling lonely, look at him. When I'm feeling sad, happy, like look at him.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

Yeah. I know for me, um I'm 29 now, but when I was 20, my parents divorced after like 22 years of marriage. And I like idolized their marriage. Like their divorce was a little sudden, and I was like, whoa, I didn't even think like there was an issue, and there was like a season after that. Like that was like a couple years where I like just had this inner battle of like oh my god, can I even like trust a man? Like for like to be around that long, or like am I just gonna have like all these trust issues, like at you know, 20 years, 22 years of marriage, because like they're gonna leave too, because I thought everything was good, and then like that happened. So um, and then it's taken a lot of time. I feel like once God started talking to me in my dreams about my husband, that was him saying, like, you can trust me. Like, I'm gonna bring you a godly man who is gonna honor marriage and honor him first and foremost. But there wasn't a while where I was like, Oh, I don't know. So, but it took and it does, I I love too that God is very patient even when we don't trust him. Yeah, and we can be honest with God of like, I don't trust you, you know, like how Sarah like she laughed. And the Lord, like, he knows you're not he knows you don't trust him, so you could just tell him. But um yeah, there was a season where I was like, I don't think that's in the cards for me. Maybe I should just not have that much hope. So wow, but I think with like the dreams and then also seeing like other testimonies of like marriages who have they've been married for like 40 years, 50 years, and things like that, it's really helped me understand like okay, you can trust God because like you're seeing that, and like why wouldn't God want to do that for you? You know? So that's good, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

Wow, I think you for sharing.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Oh, thank you, no problem. That was like the first thing that came to my mind because it was a while.

SPEAKER_02 16:54

I mean, that's not easy, it's definitely like having to go through that and like you really looking at um growing up at that like watching that relationship and you think that everything's good, and then you get hit with the like wait, like we're getting divorced, like that's hard. Yeah, it's hard because like you go from like everything being perfect to like not perfect, and then so you're learning, like yeah, it's kind of like you're learning to trust the Lord again, you know? Yeah, that's when you kind of realize, wait, this walk isn't that easy, you know.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

Yeah, that's when I feel like though I I don't I wouldn't change it though, because I feel like that's when I really met Jesus. Yeah. In fact, I think at like 20, because it took a long time like for me to navigate like how to go about things like with holidays and certain questions and family updates and things like that. Like, do I share with like my mom or my dad or both, or like what do I do? But um because I started coming to our church that we go to now, like 23. So it was still pretty fresh. My dad started dating you know, someone else, so it was like just all these things kept like resurrecting these feelings of like hurt and confusion from like the when they initially got divorced, but um, I wouldn't change it because like that's how I met God. So it's it's like just just trusting that like those hard times and like those even like those like shell-shocking like surprises of life, you know, like they God does use it for good.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

Yeah, it does. Yeah, it definitely does. And I mean, compared to back then to now, like look at how much you've grown and how much your relationship with the Lord has grown, and it's so amazing to watch as a person on the sideline for you. And yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

Thanks. I think Jasmine's gonna love this question. How has community helped you go in the right direction? You guys know I love community. How has community helped you go in the right direction when it comes to trusting God?

SPEAKER_02 18:54

Wow, it has like definitely led me into the best direction, and that is the narrow path we've been talking about, guys. Um I love community, I'm so passionate about it. I always say it because it's so true. Um, the way that my community was placed, how they say the Lord goes before you, he's already been to what you know what we're gonna be going through and what we go through and and all of that. Um, and I just truly do believe that the Lord has um went before me, like especially during my breakup, like before that. Like, if you would have like okay, my first breakup, guys, like my first out of the longest one, like that was crazy because that was the moment where I felt like I had nobody, like I have nobody. I remember crying about it, like I don't want to bring up, I have nobody, and then like I get involved in church and stuff, and then I'm like with my now ex, but like my recent one. Um now that one I was like okay, like wait, this is doable because I truly do believe that the Lord went before me um and placed everybody in my life, my community, where they have to be, and spoke through them and and really like helped me because like that could have like either led me farther from the Lord or you know, kept me closer to the Lord, which it has gotten me closer to the Lord, you know? Like having community, um, pray for me, like talk to me. That's me seeking my wise counsel, um, and just like checking up on me, like actually feeling like wow, I am so loved. I'm so loved by my community, and and the way that like they've just reflected Jesus in so many ways, um, that has led me like to to be closer to God too. Um, and the way that he speaks through them, it's amazing. I have very gifted friends too, and friends that um truly love the Lord, and um I don't know, I feel like every time I think of my community, the Lord has handpicked every single one of them and placed them in my life for a specific reason, and that's helped me a lot. It's changed my life to direct me closer to him, keep me closer to him, and to just help me learn to trust him when I can say, like, I have no hope right now. They have that hope and that faith for me.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

Yeah, oh, I remember that day. Oh, yeah, but you kept saying that, you kept saying that day. I feel and it was hard, like, but you kept saying that day. I feel like God placed everything where it was supposed to be, though. You know?

SPEAKER_02 21:35

Yeah, oh I can't wait to talk to you guys about a different season in my life because the season's a little lingering. I'm like, wow, like what else do I have to talk about? But this is like I'm telling you guys, like the season that I'm in right now, I'm learning so much, and the Lord has like just been bringing so much to the surface of my heart that I'm just like, Well, what else do I talk about? Like, this is what I'm truly learning, this is what I'm living. Not that I'm like, oh my gosh, I mean you know, I wish I was back with my whatever. Like, no, that's not how it is, but like it is like a learning process of like how the Lord is really working in me. But like this is how long. I don't know how long it's gonna be, guys.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

It's by the looks of it, it seems like it might be it's so funny because of like all the things you pull me in the car, you're like, You want to start a podcast?

SPEAKER_02 22:22

Yeah, and it's just like so cool, but yeah, just bear with me here for a minute. We're gonna get through it. Let's trust in the Lord. I trust in him, and you know, in the next season, we're all just gonna continue to praise God. Praise God now, praise God next season too.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

I'm excited to look back on the season and just laugh.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Yeah, like wow.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Yeah, but it's I I think of like our small group, um, and just how everybody is going through something, especially with the prayer requests. Um, and just there's like I mean, obviously I don't wish that on people, like bad things, but when people are going through bad things, God has a way of bringing so much comfort of like, see, you're not the only one, like it's not weird, and then also just seeing that God can hold everything in his hands. Wow, yeah. You know, it's I think it's a really beautiful thing. I think of even Jesus and his disciples, and how he didn't want to do it alone, and how he even took Peter, James, and John as like his big three. Like, I feel like I feel like like that's our small group, like our our like tribe, and we can always and even just like going there, like you kind of forget about what's going on. Because we don't start at six, I mean we get there at six thirty, but we just laugh and give updates, like what's going on? It's like, oh you're dating, are you doing this? Are you like you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 23:44

Like, and just like we're on like different seasons right now, kind of, but it's like a show.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

It's yeah, and it's like so fun. Yeah, it's like what's the update with this or what's going on and things like that.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

We just be ourselves like little girls, yeah, and we can oh my gosh, yeah, and we can be like just so happy for each other, and like it's just so amazing to see like they're literally my best friends.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

Yeah, and also like comfort each other. I love when someone like speaks up and goes, Oh, I went through that like before it's like it's gonna you just gotta hang in, you know? Yeah so I I like that. Um, I feel like it's a lot of encouraging, it can be intimidating, I feel like sometimes to open up, but I feel like we've all grown like pretty close, like it's not as hard anymore. Yeah, it's definitely easy if you like to just yap with you guys all day. So yeah, no, it's fun. Too bad it's only two hours, but it's I know we can be there all day. I know, literally. So, what does trusting God look like for you in this season?

SPEAKER_02 24:45

Ah trusting God how it looks like in this season.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

I feel like for me, I saw this. Uh I think I told you about this last night on the phone. There was this clip of um a pastor talking about Ruth, and she was like, and he was like, um, you know, Ruth wasn't fasting for a husband, she was just faithful to God. So like something I've been trying to pray, especially in the morning, like Lord, just help me help me be um faithful today. Like not worry about tomorrow because I can I can easily get overwhelmed when I think of like, okay, all this week it's like no just today. Like help me be faithful today. Um and worry about today, because I feel like when we think about the future or tomorrow, like too much to where we like are idolizing it, like we can miss what God is doing right now.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

Yeah, it's good. Um for me, I think it's just like kind of like what you're saying, but like just to keep going. Like keep going, meaning like keep opening my Bible when I don't feel like it. Yeah, and to be a little honest, like I've been kind of like just rushing through my reading and stuff like that. And for me, I don't like that because I just feel like that's why I haven't really been hearing God. Um, so that's why like I changed my routine too, is like to spend that intentional time with the Lord. Um you know, during the weekdays too, especially like just to get my day started. Um and like really taking that and like praying to him. But like just keep going, like keep showing up. Um the Lord will give you that strength to keep trusting him. And um, yeah, like the season is just like teaching me to to like just keep opening to his word, keep talking to him, keep praying, keep worshiping. Um, because like I feel like once you keep going, like it comes back. Like I've literally have felt like just something ignite in me, even just recently, like on Monday when I started doing like the whole early morning routine. Like I just felt like I was like, Oh my goodness, like I am ready. Like lately, I just feel like the Lord has been wanting me to like I was getting very impatient, but like I started kind of like asking the Lord, well, what do you want me to do right now to prepare? Like, what have I what is in my heart that you want to help me, like you know, um with? And I just for some reason, like something that's been popping up is like spreading the gospel. So, like a lot of the times when I think of Starbucks, I think of like, well, I'm scared, Lord. Like, I was being honest to the Lord about it. Um God, I'm scared to go and open my Bible at Starbucks, and it's not because I'm ashamed of the Lord, but it's because like I don't want somebody to tell me something, or you know, there's a lot like when you go to local coffee shops and they're Christian based, like of course the people there are most likely going to already be believers.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

We have a couple, yeah, we have a couple Christian-based um coffee shops in our area. Yeah, yeah. And I can think of like five.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

Yeah, so when I think of like Starbucks, I'm like, wait, like these people, like you don't know where they're coming from, they're in and out. You watch people, and it's like everyone's in a rush. Like, you know, you can really like just talk to someone there, and I feel like the Lord has been telling me, like, share the gospel, especially what happened last weekend, like with earlier.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

Shout out our new bestie Chloe.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

Yes, I know. I'm so excited, she's amazing. Yeah, but even like it was confirmation for sure. Yeah, for you for me, yes, because um I was scared of that. I was like, Lord, what are people gonna think of me? But it's like he's saying, like, don't care about what you know what I mean. Trust me, like, trust me that I'm telling you, like, to go. And it's like, wait, what am I scared of when I have a big God? I have a protective God. I have you know what I mean, and so um just kind of like him telling me to keep going, but like focus on something else rather than like my waiting season, which is like me working on my finances, working on my studying habits because I love to spend money. Um but I'm working on it and it's been amazing in the way that the Lord has came through in different ways.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

Like guys, she has a whole spreadsheet's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

I know I love it. I'm trying to be like better because when I get married, I'm supposed to be like, oh, like, and by the way, I want to be a stay-at-home wife. A wife? Why do you want to be a stay-at-home wife, like with no babies for the first year?

SPEAKER_00 29:32

Yeah, and then a stay-at-home mom. And then a stay-at-home mom. No, yeah. I love that. Yeah, so um, yeah, for me, I feel like it's kind of similar to what you said, but like I remember like when we were going to the gym, um, there would be days where I would obviously like I'm tired every day, but like there were days where I was like extra tired, and I was like, It's like I d as comfortable as my bed is, like, this is where it matters, like when you're tired. You know, and I feel like those days where you don't want to read your Bible, you don't want to pray, um you don't want to trust God, you know, you want to take matters in your own hands, like those are the moments when it really matters. Um, and it builds more endurance. So I feel like just keeping an eye on that and just noticing, like you know, not letting your flesh take over. Because I feel like especially like with the resources, like with social media and then like knowing people, like it's very easy, and even just technology in general, like it's very easy to take things in our own hands, yeah, and not leave it in his like and that's the whole point too.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

Like, trust him, like, trust him with your life, trust him with your plans, like with your future. It's so much easier said than done. Yeah, literally. But it's like when like you're really going through something, or like even when it's something silly, you think it's like silly, like doesn't matter, whatever it is, like whatever he is carrying in his hand, it's like something can be so small in his you know, in his big hand, and like that's what I picture. And it's like he's not worried about it. He's not up there, like I heard something like in a video, like saying, like, he's not worried about like, oh man, what am I gonna do? Like, what am I gonna do about the situation like that Jasmine has going on here with her single season? Like, man, like there's just no man out there.

unknown 31:30

Just kidding.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

He's not up there saying that, like, yeah, he's really not. He he like that's where the same video that I saw, like, our god is the same God that you know yesterday, tomate, today, and tomorrow. Yeah, like he's he's the same God, he's a big god, and he's a willing god.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

Yeah, oh I love that. Does comparison ever mess with that? Like trusting the team. Yes, yeah. Jasmine's gonna join the worship team. Yeah. Her video she already sent her video in. No. Um this is the audition.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

Um, this is the audition. Um, yeah, comparison is so big. Um, when it comes to like today I went to go do my nails. Uh-huh. And like we were just talking about like, oh my gosh, I can't believe it's been almost 10 years since we graduated. And like we started talking about like, oh my gosh, like everybody already has her life, like they're married, like my nail tech is married too. Um, everyone's married, has kids, most most of them. Um, and like I just look at their life and like obviously I'm sure they don't have like an easy life either, but it's like, man, like they have everything that I like a lot of what I want of like you know, their own homes, like marriage, like marriage or kids, like I want that, and I have the desire so bad, but it's like the comparison starts to creep in, and I have to really like remind myself, like, um, you have a big God girl. Like, do you know who you're talking to right now? Like, when it comes, you know what I mean? Like, do you know? Like, do you understand that like he can do if he really like if he wanted to and it was time, like he could be like, oh, put her boyfriend at this stop sign, like, you know what I mean? Have you bump into her like at that moment? Like, he could do big things, and it's like I have to remind myself on like the God that I serve, um, and like how great he is, and so that helps a lot with my comparison when it comes to like just other things that I compare myself to or with, um, and like trusting him because I mean my God loves me, like I know that, you know, like why wouldn't he he um want that happiness for me of the desires that I have in my heart? Yeah, so I just have to remind myself and to really like trust him, be still and know that I am God. Like, what it what verse is that? Because I just like that came to my mind right now. Actually, it's so crazy. I think it's Psalms.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

It could be. You're on a Psalms kick.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

I am, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

She's a she's a song.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

Be still and know that I am God. Yeah. And I was like, wow, it's crazy that it actually like just popped into my head. If it's a song, that's actually so crazy. I'm gonna look for it. Can you play some elevator music? Oh, here I can answer. But I oh yeah, answer.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Um, I'm gonna be honest. I um and I know I said a couple episodes ago that I um I'm back on my social media fast because I've been scrolling way too much and I don't know what's going on. I feel like I can get off and I'm so good, but then once I come back on, like I'm right back on my little kick. So um it definitely if I'm not and I'm not saying like social media is bad, but I'm saying like scrolling too much, and I feel like that definitely opens a door to comparison, and you um you just expose yourself to like so many questions of like, well, why do they have this and I don't? And even like going deeper than that, you wonder, Am I doing something wrong? And then that goes to like self-condemnation and thing, you know, things like that, and God was like, You're fine, like it's you know, and um while yes it's easier to do that, it also does more like damage. So um I feel like comparison has played a part in that, but something that I've been trying to do is just like notice it and just run back to the Lord's feet.

SPEAKER_02 35:43

Yeah, you know, I mean that's yeah, notice it, like acknowledge it, yeah, be aware of it, and be like, you know what, Lord, like I set this back down because sometimes we I mean not sometimes a lot of the times we're picking it back up. I feel like yeah, let's notice that. Let's say, Lord, like this is what I'm doing, like what can I do differently and lay it back down.

SPEAKER_00 36:05

Yeah, that's so good. Yeah. Um I feel like asked Oh, did you find it? Yeah, go ahead. Oh, it's another question. It's a go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

Oh, it's um, this is crazy because um Chloe, yeah, when when Chloe, our friend at Starbucks, she made my drink with so much love. Thank you. Um, but she wrote Psalms 46. Oh, was it that one I saw? 46, um, no, 465. God is within her, she will not fail. I mean, not fall. God will help her at break of day. But I was like, you know what? I'm gonna study chapter 46. And so I read the whole thing, and it said, Come and see what the Lord has done. The desolations he has brought on the earth, he makes the wars cease to the ends of the earth. He breaks the bow and shatters the spear, he burns the shields with fire, he says, Be still and know that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth. The Lord Almighty is with us, the God of Jacob is our fortress. So, what feels overwhelming is not overwhelming to God, is what I like. I had wrote, you know, trust that He is God, be still and surrender. So it's like really surrendering everything, but like truly surrendering everything at His feet and trusting that the Lord is the Lord, like when He says be still, like be relaxed, like be at peace, because know that you have a good and great God, know that I am God, and I think like that one, wow, I feel like that was like the Lord. I truly feel the Lord had like placed that in my in my mind because I'm not good with scripture or memorizing any of it, so like the fact that it just came to my mind at that moment, like I felt like that was him, like be still and know that I'm God, you know.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

So good. I think of like um when God came to Moses in Exodus 3, and he said in verse 6, I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. So he's saying, like, I've done that, I've done that, and I've done that. Like a burning bush and what you're gonna go do with Pharaoh and my children, this is nothing for me. Yes, it's so good. It's and then after that, Moses argued with him. Like, I stutter, I can't, like I, you know, so it's me.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

When I tell him, like, no, I can't do ministry because that I know scared.

SPEAKER_00 38:38

It's so it's so good. I think he's so reassuring. Yeah, he really is. Well, we all like to argue with God for some reason. We just can't he's so patient. I feel like that's I feel like that's that's like that's fine because it's gonna show how patient I am. Yeah. Um let me see. We kind of answer this, but do you believe God is willing to bring your promises to pass? Oh, his promises to pass.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

Um, like he will fulfill them. Yes, of course. Like we have um we have such a good God that he's just he is willing and and he does want to fulfill our pro like the promises, you know? We have a God that is such a good God and thinks about us too and loves us. Like, I don't know, when I think of that, I just think of like how much he loves us and like how he wants to do all this. Sometimes like things don't go our way, and some people may be like, Well, why is this happening? Why is that, you know? But like a lot of like everybody's story is already written, and so it's like things have to go through. Like, you know, you have to go through things that are probably not ideal, but they're building endurance, they're building strength, they're building character, and it's like not things that we want to go through sometimes, but it's like it has to happen, and it doesn't mean that he loves you any less. He like Jesus like suffered, you know, and and and he could have saved himself but didn't because we were the ones on his mind.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

Yeah. Is there anything specific that like holds you back from believing that? I know for me it's like it's like doubt.

SPEAKER_02 40:28

Um, I mean, yeah, I think we all have doubt. We all get like the what ifs. Because I'll make a list of what if, like, or like that's the enemy, and I'm like, uh, get away.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

I can think from me. Because I think like I like for me, it gets so easy to think of like all the reasons why God can't do it. But then I just reflect on like his goodness. Guys, I'm telling you, like, if you see her like worshiping on the stage, let me worship my sore.

SPEAKER_02 40:54

No, um, yeah, I think like that's what the enemy wants us to think. It's like, but also remembering, guys, that like God has given us the authority to get that doubt out of us, too. Like, you know, you don't belong here, you don't belong in our minds. Like, it is so hard to learn that, I feel like, but it's all part of like spiritual warfare too. Like, obviously, the devil wants you to doubt what the Lord can do. Yeah, and we all have it. There are no, like, I don't think there's anybody that isn't doubtful sometimes, especially when they go through a hard season. But that's when you really want to go and look at God and say, Hey Lord, like this is how I feel, and I know this that you know that I feel like this, but how can I get through this? How can are you in help me with this? Yeah, and it's just being honest, like I'm having a hard time trusting right now, you know, like the Lord will go, like the Lord will be there, and um yeah, I mean, I have had my doubts, I've had my crying sessions where I've had like a hard time trusting the Lord um and telling him that. Like, sometimes I'll literally be like, God, I am like bawling, guys. I'll be like, God, I'm having a really hard time trusting you right now.

SPEAKER_00 42:21

But yeah, he he's a good God. He's a really good God. I don't know why this randomly came into my mind. First Timothy 3 16. It says without question, this is the great mystery of our faith. Christ was revealed in a human body and vindicated by the Spirit. He was seen by angels and announced to the nations. He was believed in throughout the world and was taken to heaven in glory. Yeah, I think yeah, I'm just thinking of like salvation too. Yeah, like things that can help us like bounce back from falling off. Yeah. And doubt. Because doubt can be powerful. Doubt is very easy to get hooked on.

SPEAKER_02 43:02

Anything, yeah, the enemy will do anything to separate us from God. Yeah. And that a lot of the times, uh what do they say? Like the arrows that they'll throw arrows at the shields, or what is that one in uh Ephesians 6? I think it is. I have this first too, I just totally forgot. But it just came to mind kind of before we end. I want to talk about it. Is like, um the armor of God? Yeah, the armor of God 611, I think. There you go. 611. And it says, Um, stand firm. Oh, wait, therefore, put on the full armor of God so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground. And after you have done everything to stand, stand firm. Then with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace, in addition to all of this, take up the Shields of faith with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. The flame, the flaming, the flaming arrows of the evil one is like temptation, doubt.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:11

Um, like those things that try to really like take over your mind and start making you doubt and separate you from the Lord.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

Um, so again, that's why it's so important to just remember that the Lord lives like within us and is so near us that you have the authority to tell all of that doubt to go away.

SPEAKER_01 44:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:35

Um, and it's just so good to remember, you know, that like don't give the enemy a foothold. We have a good God and we have a God that will protect us and shield us.

SPEAKER_00 44:50

So good. Yeah. So with that being said, are there any practical things that you do to keep trusting in God? I know for me it's like not filling my mind with things that don't glorify him. So like music or like listening to pop. I'm trying to listen to like more like being not that I like I haven't been, but just being aware of what I'm listening to.

SPEAKER_02 45:15

Yeah. And like what I'm looking at. I feel like music.

SPEAKER_00 45:18

Yeah, I feel like our eye gates and our ear gates can be very like beneficial of what we're looking at and listening to, um, but also can be very like detrimental.

SPEAKER_02 45:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:29

Sometimes I'm literally like listening to something and I'm like that's not but I feel yeah, but I feel like once you come to Jesus, like you you slowly like start to gain, like in reading his word, you start to gain that like sensitivity.

SPEAKER_02 45:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:44

And then like allowing him to renew your mind and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

Yeah, that's so good. Yeah, yeah. Just invite him in, invite him in. Um, that's like something that I like has just been sticking out to me a lot too, is like just inviting the Lord in and and um asking him to like clean out your heart and bring to surface what needs to be brought out to help heal. And um, I feel like a lot of the times, like, although that can be like such a hard process, I feel like we kind of have to go through those kind of things. Um and like so that way it will help us build endurance to trust the Lord. I don't know. Does that make sense? Yeah. Um but yeah, just kind of like being honest and being truthful and even when you don't want to trust him, tell him like, hey, like I just this is how I feel, you know? And um yeah, inviting him in to those places of doubt, you know.

SPEAKER_00 46:46

I feel like also too, like getting your mind off of things that you desire and enjoying like little things.

SPEAKER_02 46:54

Yeah, that's okay. That um I'm very sad about that too, guys. Let me get up real quick and get comfortable. No, um, we were talking about this recently. I love the little things, like oh yeah, I know you do. Yeah, you do. I just am so nostalgic. I love thinking about memories, I love like making big things out of small things, like birthdays, um sunrises, like sunsets, like just a little coffee, walking around town, like shopping. Like, I just don't know why, but I find so much joy in all of those things and like picking up hobbies.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

Like, oh wait, let's talk about Jasmine. Is on like a side quest kick right now. She's gonna be a track star. What else do you want to do? Okay, can we let you can list my hobbies? Okay, track running, running. Um, what did you you said something uh oh my gosh, she wants to be a soccer star now. She called me, she's like, hey, so I was talking with my brother. He's on a soccer team and he asked me to join. I'm gonna do it. And she goes, so maybe like Friday night, you want to help me train?

SPEAKER_02 48:14

I was like, I picked up a side quest. So you're gonna pick up a side quest, Tatiana. Yeah, um, yeah, like just like I mean, I go to the gym. I've been like on a fitness journey right now. So um just like getting my mind off of things that will start making me doubt. Because like sometimes if I get too much in my head, um, I start to doubt. I start to really like not trust the Lord. Like it's a hard thing, you know. But when I keep myself busy um and filled with his word, it helps me. So like I will do like my Bible study and then I'll do like, you know, the things that I do at church, I'll attend church, like that's all fun and like amazing to me. I love it. Like it's something that fills me, um, and it helps me keep going, like surrounding myself with community. But then like I love just the little things of like um like whatever I said earlier, like the small things, and then like on top of that, like I just started running. I want to start like practicing for like a little 5k. Um she wants to do 5k, yeah. And then like uh soccer on Sunday evenings, my family, and then um what else did I? Oh, and then obviously I go to the gym. So just like doing a lot of these things that I enjoy, and then like starting to like um, I don't know, there's a lot of things that I love. Like I oh, oh um, also like doing I'm gonna start baking sourdough. I didn't tell you because I was talking to someone and she's like, oh wait, I can get you like a little sourdough starter. I'm like, yeah, I was actually asking her the other day because um I was like, I want to start like baking sourdough and like trying to make different flavors and stuff. And like also um trying new recipes because I really want to get like really like I know how to cook, but like I don't do it as often because like I work and then my family already cooks by the time I'm off, like you know what I mean? So it's just like so much food, but like um just like trying new recipes and like new baking like stuff, like and just baking more banana bread. I don't know. I can totally see you calling me next week and be like, So what do you think of guitar? I all of that helped me guys, especially during this like long waiting. Well, it's not even long, but like it's long for me. Um waiting season is just like kind of like sitting there and I was like talking to the Lord, saying, like, well, God, like what like it can I do to prepare for my husband other than like what I've been doing, you know? And it's just like your he's like your finances. I'm like, okay, yeah, I cannot spend a lot, so I've been really careful with that a lot more. Um, and then like just like I don't know, all of these things that keep me busy. I feel like baking helps me too, like cooking will help me more. Like, you know what I mean? Because I'm very attentive. Like the way that I like picture myself like attending my husband is like how I would do it with so much love, and so it's just like I want to learn to cook like such a great meal, like get good at it, you know, and like bake so good, and then like when my husband gets home, like just feed him.

SPEAKER_00 51:28

Once you get the sourdough stuff down, teach me.

SPEAKER_02 51:31

Of course.

SPEAKER_00 51:32

I wanna try because I want to try like the cheese, because I've seen the cheese and jalapeno sourdough. I want to try that one so bad.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

Yeah, so it's like a chocolate one that I want to do. There's just so much, and I'm like, wow, like my husband is gonna be so happy. Jasmine's gonna have a bakery. I'm gonna have a big and do it. If he was like, yeah, babe, like if you wanna be the bakery flash coffee shop, like why not? Sourdough, jasmine's kitchen sourdough. I don't know, but like I wanna do that so much that I get good at it. That's what I want to do. I don't know. I like so much, and then on the side, play soccer. And I play soccer. Yeah, so much going on.

SPEAKER_00 52:11

Oh my gosh, you're so cute.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

Because I choose to be busy, I don't know. I like fun stuff though.

SPEAKER_00 52:18

Yeah, it's funny. It's fun stuff, and I love that you run outside, yeah. Like, and you like take she texts me all the time. She's like, she's like, I got my my limited time this today. Last week it was 16, now it's 15. Like, it's so I love like the enthusiasm, like it's so inspiring. I don't know if I'll ever I've been saying I'll join you on a run, like to try it. I haven't yet. Like I listen, we're just yapping at this point, guys.

SPEAKER_02 52:43

We're done, but um, I just think like it's so funny because like she will be like, Yeah, maybe like one day, and I'm like, dude, like I would love to run with my best friend, but she just doesn't want to.

SPEAKER_00 52:56

I never liked running. Um, I'll cook sourdough with you.

SPEAKER_02 52:59

Yeah, she'll cook sourdough once I learn and get good at it, and then we can just be sourdough gals. Yeah. Um, and then like I just feel like I would be so proud that when I start dating, I'm literally gonna be like, I already know how to make it. Sourdough. Yeah, so I'm a banana bread girl and a sourdough girly. And then just like be so proud and loud about it. This is gut healthy, like, baby, where the heck is my husband?

SPEAKER_00 53:31

Oh my gosh. We we're gonna ramble if we don't stop. Okay. We already did ramble. Girl, what are you doing? It's okay. This is But I love this time with you guys. I know, it's fun. This is like a little peek into how we talk in the car.

SPEAKER_02 53:43

Oh, you guys don't even want to. There is so much that just we go.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

If we have to go to the store, we take the long way home. We take the long because we got some things to say. That's so funny. We're not done. We're probably gonna do that tomorrow. We're like, you wanna go be the Dutch? Yes. Ooh, we should do that. You wanna go after this? Yeah, okay. Period. Okay, guys, we gotta go. We're gonna go.

SPEAKER_02 54:03

I love the HTML. Okay, guys. So I'm gonna finish up in prayer and then I'm gonna go home, get ready, and then come pick her up. We'll go get Dutch with Joseph. With Joseph! Oh my god, shout out Joseph. Like, we're gonna go pick him up and then like we'll just we'll take him to Dutch before we're gonna go.

SPEAKER_00 54:17

Oh my gosh, when Joseph gets in the mix, it's so he's he's a little brother. He's our little brother.

SPEAKER_02 54:22

He's a little brother, he's adorable. Love that, and yeah, him and Bryce are like little brother vibes. Oh, Bryce, that's a whole other Bryce is funny, guys.

SPEAKER_00 54:31

He is funny. Everyone needs a Bryce, just don't take ours. I think everyone needs a jasmine, just don't take mine.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

You're so cute. I love you. Okay, all right, let's pray. Okay, Heavenly Father, thank you so much for this time that we had today, Lord. The just the laughters and and just everything that we can just have humor about, Lord. I thank you so much for that. Um how like just laughter just fills us with joy. I thank you for that too. I thank you for all of the little things that you just bless us with, Lord. Everything that we usually take for granted, Jesus. Like, I just thank you for all of that. And I and I just pray that you just continue to remind us to to appreciate those little things, Lord. Um, like thank you for the sunsets, the sunrises, thank you for just being the ability to just go run and move our body, Lord. Um, what no, sorry, I sorry, sorry, go ahead. Sorry guys. Um but thank you so much for that. I also want to just lift up every um listener on the other side, Lord, to you. I just pray that you just guide them on how to trust you, um, Lord, and just how to be more honest with you, Jesus. I pray that you um continue to just guide them and fill them with wisdom on how to do so. Trusting can be so hard as a Christian, Lord, and there's just nothing else that I would rather do, but I I just pray that you you continue to guide us, to teach us, um, and to talk to us and remind us how to go about that, Lord. What decisions to make, um, how to talk to you, um, that there's no wrong or right way to talk to you, Jesus, that you just want us to be honest. Um, I just pray and lift up everybody when they're having a hard time um talking or trusting you, Lord, that you just fill them with an overwhelming peace, like a good overwhelming peace and calmness that you give us, Lord. Um, and I just pray that you constantly remind them that you're there, that you are there listening to them, um, and that you care about our desires and our wants, Lord, but that you just everything that you do is for our good, and that you will use that for their good, Lord, that you will use it for your for the plans that you have us to prosper us, Lord, and and not to harm us. Um and I just pray um healing over anybody that just may be going through a hard time, Lord, or any scares, Lord. I just pray that you bring them healing from head to toe. You are our greatest physician, the best physician. May you just go ahead and um guide us the right way. Continue to trust you, Lord. Um, and I just pray healing over everybody, Jesus. And I ask all of this in your name, Lord. Jesus' name. Amen.

SPEAKER_00 57:34

Amen, Lord. I believe that you um took all my sins and that you died and you rose on the third day. God, come into my heart. I acknowledge that I am a sinner in need of a savior. Um, Holy Spirit, come and fill me and be Lord of my life in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Amen. Why did you laugh mid-prayer? Oh. What did you think of? This random TikTok of like one little kid where he's like, pepper spray.

SPEAKER_02 58:04

He's like, Yeah, I've seen.

SPEAKER_00 58:08

So I was like, log in, Dodgeana, log in. I'm so sorry. I was like, mid prayer? That was crazy. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I think it was the devil, but I didn't know because your prayer was so beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 58:20

Yeah, you think so? I'm trying to like get better at it and just not be nervous. Really? Yeah, like I want to mentalize more. You're in flow state. God knows my heart. All right, guys. We love you so much and we appreciate you guys listening and just being here. If you guys can, just follow us. Share this podcast with someone you think would like it. Um, and yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:49

Anything else? Jesus loves you.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

Jesus loves you. Bye.